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| The family were Baptists by faith. Nine of the
children were baptised together in September 1828 at Heathfield
Independent Chapel. There is also a later association with the Newick Zion Chapel. Son Eli appears to have been something of a rogue. A fraudster and cattle stealer. |
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| North Barnes Farm East Chiltington, home in 1841 | ||||
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| THE TIMES -18 September 1847 |
| Sussex -Chiltington and Plumpton -A most
desirable Freehold Farm, with Residence and Buildings, abounding with
game, and near the Railroad Station -By VERRALL and SON, at the Star
Inn, Lewes, on Tuesday, October 5, exactly at 4, by direction of the
Executors of the late Mrs. Henry Harbin, in two lots: Lot 1. THAT most desirable Freehold Estate, lying in the parishes of Chiltington and Plumpton, known as North Barns, comprising a roomy farm house with all conveniant appendages and agricultural buildings, together with about 145 acres of rich old meadow, pasture, and most productive arable land, in a high state of cultivation, in the occupation of Mr. James Walder, tenant at will, pleasantly situate about six miles from Lewes, and near the intended railroad station, which is to be opened on the 1st October next. This estate lies in the midst of preserves and abounds with game. Lot 2. A small Enclosure of Freehold land, containing about 2s. 2r. 19s. situate a short distance north of Plumpton Crossways, an eligible spot for building. Particulars and conditions of sale to be had of Mr. Bower, solicitor, 6, Tokenhouse-yard, London; or of the auctioneers at Lewes, Sussex. |
| Lot 1 was advertised again on the 22 April 1848
this time saying: let to James Walder, an old and respectable tenant (who is under notice to quit), at a low rent. |
| James Walder | bap. 16 Feb 1777 Ifield | m. 14 Sep
1807 Horsham Licence |
d. 25 Mar
1856 Newick Will |
| Ann Stone | b. June 1785 | d. 1850 | |
| Thomas 1740 | James 1708 | Thomas 1671 | John 1634 | John 1596 | William 1555 | Thomas 15? |
| John | b. 17 Mar 1810 Horsham | m. Mary m. Barbara Hughes 6 Nov 1852 Lewes |
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| James | b. 7 Mar 1812 East Chiltington |
m. Ruth Selden 24 Oct
1846 Brighton m. Charlotte Wood 2 May 1877 Wivelsfield |
d. 26 Dec 1898 Isfield |
| Mary | b. 20 Aug 1814 East Chiltington |
m. Charles Clifford 1 Nov 1834 East Chiltington | |
| Thomas | b. 19 Jul 1816 East Chiltington |
m. Eliza Wood 30 Sep
1844 Brighton 1851 -Thomas a widower, Cordwainer Jorneyman Plumpton Green (185128) |
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| Jane | b. 26 Dec 1818 East Chiltington |
m. Thomas Attree 1 Oct 1854 Newick | d. 1883 Battle |
| Caleb | b. 18 Feb 1820 East Chiltington |
m. Sarah Atree | d. 30 Apr 1904 MI -Zion Chapel Newick |
| Amos | b. 17 Jan 1822 East Chiltington |
m. Catherine Jupp 15 Feb 1847 Brighton | d. 1891 Age 69 -Sep Qtr Brighton 2b 140 |
| Ann | b. 28 Mar 1824 Westmeston | m. Thomas Knight | d. Aug 1896 MI -Zion Chapel Newick |
| Eli | b. 12 Jul 1825 Westmeston | ||
| Philip William | bap. 13 Sep 1830
East Chiltington |
m. Mary m. Sarah Ann Picknell 22 Nov 1859 |
d. 28 Apr 1906 MI -Zion Chapel Newick |
| Census: | 1841 | 1851 |
Marriage Licence -Chichester Diocese, 18 Jul 1807
James Walder of Horsham (4 weeks) labourer,b, aged 27 and Ann Stone of Horsham (4 weeks) ,spr, aged 21 ss the sd JW and Thomas Walder of Horsham Farmer, (Horsham).
| 1841 Census -East Chiltington | 184158 |
| Address | Name | Age | Profession | Where Born |
| North Bourne Farm | James Walder | 63 | Farmer | Same County |
| Ann Walder | 56 | Same County | ||
| James Walder | 26 | Same County | ||
| Thomas Walder | 24 | Shoe M | Same County | |
| Amos Walder | 19 | Same County | ||
| Ann Walder | 15 | Same County | ||
| Eli Walder | 14 | Same County | ||
| Philip Walder | 10 | Same County | ||
| Stephen Kilner | 27 | Same County |
| 1851 Census -Newick | 185163 |
| Address | Name | Rel. | Con | Age | Profession | Where Born |
| James Walder | Head | W | 73 | Farmer 140 acres. Employs 6 | Isfield Sussex | |
| Jane Walder | Dau | U | 30 | House Keeper | Chiltington Sussex | |
| Caleb Walder | Son | U | 29 | Ag Lab Farmer's Son | Chiltington Sussex | |
| Amos Walder | Neph | U | 14 | Servant Ag Lab | Chailey Sussex | |
| Louis Walder | G Son | U | 3 | Plumpton Sussex | ||
| Eliza Smith | Serv | U | 17 | House Serv | Chailey Sussex | |
| George Heasman | Serv | U | 22 | Farm Serv | Chailey Sussex | |
| Charles Brazier | Serv | U | 19 | Farm Serv | Chailey Sussex |
| 1851 Census -Brighton | 185164 |
| Address | Name | Rel. | Con | Age | Profession | Where Born |
| 7 Montague Street | Mary Elphick | Head | W | 37 | Laundress | Chailey Sussex |
| Ann Elphick | Dau | U | 16 | Plumpton
Sussex |
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| Rob Elphick | Son | U | 8 | Scholar | Brighton Sussex | |
| John Elphick | Son | U | 2 | Scholar | Brighton Sussex | |
| Eli Walder | Cousin | U | 28 | Butcher | Chiltington Sussex |
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| East Sussex Quarter Sessions 1845 (Extract) Eli Walder -Fraud Henry Austen a butcher in Barcombe sent Eli Walder to the brewhouse of one John Langford in Lewes for twenty bushels of grains. He gave Eli five shillings to pay for the grains. Later Eli falsely claimed another half a crown saying that he had got thirty bushels. Plea -Guilty Sentence -imprisoned for one month to hard labour. |
| East Sussex Quarter Sessions 1853 (Extract) Eli Walder -Cattle Stealing One Mare of the price of fourteen pounds of the Goods and Chattels of James Walder the Elder. Second Count Within six calendar months of the first count. One Cow of the price of ten pounds of the Goods And Chattels of the said James Walder. Plea -Not Guilty Verdict -Guilty Sentence -on first count imprisoned for six calendar months to hard labour, on second count imprisoned for six calendar months to hard labour to commence on the expiration of the first sentence. |
| Amongst
the papers is a statement from James Walder the younger detailing the
events. He is a labourer from Newick who lives with his father a farmer
from Newick. In 1851 Eli is living in Brighton with cousin Mary Elphick and he is described as a butcher. In 1872 he is back in Lewes Prison on a charge of larceny. He wrote to a cousin on his mother's side shortly before his release. |
| Lewes 10 Decr/72 Dear Cousin I take this opportunity of writing to you hopeing this may find you all well as thank God it leaves me I should have wrote before but I looked for a letter from Mrs Attree. I suppose you will be at Horsham Show Market next Wensday Poor Caroline and I was both there last year now one is and the other is not tell me when you write how that family is doing. You will have the account of Lewes market Show market I mean in this weeks paper save the paper until I see it, tell me if any of the cows have calved yet and how the {…..} calves of last years gets on and if you have and if you have sold either of the bulls and if you have who to I should think cattle is very dear turn over write short as the letter has to be read before delivered I should you had a fine harvest for your corn and a good time to make your hay the days was very hot here on this hill I have passed my time as nice as I could it has seemed very long I often said at your house how fast the time flew away. I have not said that here one day seems like a week. Yesterday was a fine day for Reigate Fair perhaps you was there I think Brother Knight would be there he seldom misses that fair. I wish you to send me the sum of half a crown in stamps if you will be so kind to convey me to Stone Cross for my solicitor took all my cash every farthing so that I am quite without money till I get to Stone Cross that sum will not make you much the poorer in the end of time. I hope Little George and Thomas are quite well I think they are much grown by this time I often think of them and Little Harriatt and the {…..}?cat. I should Elisa Stone is married by this time and Miss ?Smart and William Batchelor at Waddelswish. I suppose there pigs are all fatted what I saved last year by this time and some of them killed. they would make fine large hogs by this time I hope you will not push this by and me if you do I shall be very sorry. as Thos Knight made me some very fair offers in your favour therefore I cannot trouble him for this small sum you can post at Horsham or Dorking. I must conclude with love to all from your affectionately Eli Walder County Gaol Lewes Sussex |
| Lewes Mid Summer Sessions 1872 |
| Eli falsely represented to one Edwin Darwin that William Crisfield
of Winchester, a cattle dealer, had told him to take a heifer away from
his premises to get what he could for it. Eli also falsely maintained
that he had been in the service of Mr Crisfield for some years. Plea -Not Guilty Verdict -Guilty, imprisonment for six months. |
| Will 1856 -James Walder, Farmer ESRO A85 521 |
| All ten children mentioned including Mary wife
of Charles Clifford and Ann Knight. Executors: John and Philip William Walder Witnesses: William Dumbrill, Gardener, Newick and Godfrey Guy, Farmer, Newick. |