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| Albert John was born and bred in Warnham
Sussex, in 1881 he was a 21 year old agricultural labourer. By the time
of his marriage in 1885 he had moved to Norwood in the London suburbs
and was a gardener. Mary Jane was born in Llangollen Wales, the daughter of Sarah and Joseph Roberts. It seems likely that the couple met and courted in Warnham as Mary Jane was resident (in service at a guess) at Warnham Vicarage at the time of the marriage. The family was raised in the area of Norwood with Albert John working as a domestic gardener. Although, by the time of his death from heart attack in 1912, age 52, he had become a road labourer. Mary Jane and some of the children returned to Wales. She died there in 1937, age 80. |
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| Albert John with daughter ?Gladys | Mary |
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| Gladys | John Stanley | Dora |
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| Arthur | Maurice | Gwilym | Florence |
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| Albert John Walder | b.
17 Feb 1860 Warnham Sussex Cert |
m.
16 May 1885 Lambeth Surrey Cert |
d.
22 Feb 1912 Streatham London Cert |
| Mary Jane Roberts | b.
9 Nov 1857 Llangollen Wales Cert |
d.
11 Nov 1937 Wrexham Wales Cert |
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| Thomas Walder 1810 | Thomas 1775 | James 1742 | James 1708 | Thomas 1671 | John 1634 | John 1596 | William 1555 | Thomas 15? |
| Joseph Roberts 1835 | Robert 1797 | Thomas | ||||||
| Gladys Mary |
b. 22 Mar 1886 Norwood Surrey -bp 8 Aug 1886 Warnham Surrey |
m. Jack Hammond | d. 19 Jan 1985 |
| John Stanley | b. 8 May 1887 Norwood Surrey -bp 24 Jun 1888 Warnham Surrey |
m. Emma Tedbury Havill 10 Jul 1915 Kingston Surrey | d. 20 Feb 1946 Wimbledon Surrey |
| Dorah Christine | b. 1888 Norwood Surrey | m. Henry Archer King | d. 1974 |
| Arthur H. | b. 9 Apr 1891 Norwood Surrey | m. Ethel Garrett | d. 1963 |
| Maurice James | b. 1893 Norwood Surrey -Sep Qtr Wandsworth 1d 798 | m. Sarah Lee | d. 1954 |
| Gwilym Vaughn | b. 4 Nov 1894 Norwood Surrey | m. Mary Margaret Hughes 9 Mar 1924 | d. 16 Sep 1963 |
| Florence Sarah | b. 1900 Norwood Surrey -Jun Qtr Wandsworth 1d 705 | d. 1948 | |
| Census | 1861 | 1871 | 1881 | 1891 | 1901 |
| 1861 Census -Trevor Uchea Llangollen | 1861142/b |
| Address | Name | Rel. | Con | Age | Profession | Where Born |
| Dee Mill Place | Joseph Roberts | Head | Mar | 27 | Flannel Weaver | Llan? |
| Sarah Roberts | Wife | Mar | 27 | Llangollen Denbigh | ||
| Mary J. Roberts | Dau | 4 | Llangollen Denbigh | |||
| Richard Roberts | Son | 8m | Llangollen Denbigh |
| 1861 Census -Warnham Sussex | 1861120 |
| Address | Name | Rel. | Con | Age | Profession | Where Born |
| Warnham Street | Thomas Walder | Head | Mar | 50 | Carpenter | Warnham Sussex |
| Ann Walder | Wife | Mar | 39 | Brighton Sussex | ||
| Elizabeth Ann Walder | Dau | 14 | Scholar | New Shoreham Sussex | ||
| William James Walder | Son | 9 | Scholar | New Shoreham Sussex | ||
| Sarah Jane Walder | Dau | 7 | Scholar | Southwick Sussex | ||
| Mary Ann Walder | Dau | 5 | Horsham Sussex | |||
| Albert John Walder | Son | 1 | Warnham Sussex |
| 1871 Census -Warnham Sussex | 1871170 |
| Address | Name | Rel. | Con | Age | Profession | Where Born |
| Warnham Street | Ann Walder | Head | Wid | 49 | Annuitant | Brighton Sussex |
| William J Walder | Son | 18 | Bricklayers Lab. | Shoreham Sussex | ||
| Sarah Jane Walder | Dau | 17 | Domestic Servant | Southwick Sussex | ||
| Mary Ann Walder | Dau | 15 | Domestic Servant | Horsham Sussex | ||
| Albert J Walder | Son | 10 | Scholar | Warnham Sussex |
| 1871 Census -Llangollen Wales | 1871194 |
| Address | Name | Rel. | Con | Age | Profession | Where Born |
| 18 Dee Mill Place | Thomas Williams | Head | Mar | 48 | Fuller in Woollen Factory | ? Denbigh |
| Mary Jane Roberts | Niece | 12 | Scholar | Manchester | ||
| Mathew Hughes | Lodg | Wid | 42 | Woolen Spinner | ? Denbigh |
| 1881 Census -Warnham | 1881119 |
| Address | Name | Rel. | Con | Age | Profession | Where Born |
| Warnham Street | Ann Walder | Head | Wid | 59 | (Handicap: Idiot) | Brighton Sussex |
| Albert John Walder | Son | 21 | Agricultural Labourer | Warnham Sussex |
| 1891 Census -Streatham London | 1891 |
| Address | Name | Rel. | Con | Age | Profession | Where Born |
| 22 Birkbeck Place | Albert J Walder | Visitor | M | 31 | Gardener | Warnham Sussex |
| Palmer Family | Mary J Walder | Visitor | M | 32 | Llangollen Wales | |
| Gladys M Walder | Visitor | U | 5 | Streatham Surrey | ||
| John S Walder | Visitor | 3 | Lambeth Surrey | |||
| Dora C Walder | Visitor | 2 | Lambeth Surrey |
| 1901 Census -Lambeth London | 1901227 |
| Address | Name | Rel. | Con | Age | Profession | Where Born |
| 43 Thurlow Hill | Albert J Walder | Head | M | 41 | Gardener | Warnham Sussex |
| Mary J Walder | Wife | M | 41 | Llangollen Wales | ||
| John S Walder | Son | 13 | West Dulwich | |||
| Dora C Walder | Dau | 12 | West Dulwich | |||
| Arthur H Walder | Son | 9 | West Dulwich | |||
| Morris J Walder | Son | 7 | West Dulwich | |||
| Gwilyn U Walder | Son | 6 | West Dulwich | |||
| Florence S Walder | Dau | 1 | West Dulwich |
| 1901 Census -Llangollen Wales | 1901268 |
| Address | Name | Rel. | Con. | Age | Profession | Where Born |
| 14 Market
Street |
Mathew Hughes | Head | M | 71 | Flannel Weaver | ? Denbigh |
| Sarah Hughes | Wife | M | 67 | ? Denbigh | ||
| Owen Davies | Lodger | U | 29 | Flannel Weaver | Llangollen Denbigh | |
| Gladys Mary Walder | Grand Dau | U | 15 | Dressmaker Apprentice | Dulwich Surrey |
| Birth -Llangollen Wales | 1857 Dec Corwen 11b 368 -W31 |
| When and where born | Name if any | Name of father | Name of mother | Occupation of father | Informant | When registered |
| Ninth
November 1857 Ddol Llangollen |
Mary Jane | Joseph Roberts | Sarah Roberts formerly Jones | Weaver | The Mark of Sarah Roberts, Mother, Ddol Llangollen | Sixteenth November 1857 |
| Birth -Warnham Sussex | 1860 Mar Horsham 2b 271 -W14 |
| When and where born | Name if any | Name of father | Name of mother | Occupation of father | Informant | When registered |
| Seventeenth February 1860 Warnham | Albert John | Thomas Walder | Ann Walder formerly Tugwell | Master Carpenter | Ann Walder, Mother, Warnham. | Nineteenth March 1860 |
| Marriage -Chatsworth Road Baptist Chapel Lambeth Surrey | 1885 Jun Lambeth 1d 830-W6 |
| Date | Names | Age | Condition | Profession | Residence | Father | Profession |
| Sixteenth May 1885 | Albert John Walder | 24 Years | Batchelor | Gardener | 8?39 Thurlow Hill Lower Norwood | Thomas Walder Deceased | Carpenter |
| Mary Jane Roberts | 25 Years | Spinster | Warnham Vicarage, Near Horsham | Joseph Roberts Deceased | Worked in a Flannel Factory |
| Witnesses | G. Andrews and M.A. Walder |
| Death -South West Battersea London | 1912 Mar Wandsworth 1d 585-W30 |
| When and where died | Name | Age | Occupation | Cause of death | Informant | When registered |
| Twenty Second February 1912 St James' Infirmary Ousley Road | Albert John Walder | 52 Years | Road Labourer of 183 Eardley Road Streatham | Wm L. Maccormac Superintendant St James' Infirmary Ousley Road Battersea | Twenty Third February 1912 |
| Death -Wrexham Wales | 1937 Dec Wrexham 11b 286-W12 |
| When and where died | Name | Age | Occupation | Cause of death | Informant | When registered |
| Eleventh
November 1937 Croweenewydd Hospital Wrexham U.D. |
Mary Jane Walder | 80 years | of
14 Market Street Llangollen U.D. Wife of John Albert Walder A Gardener (Domestic) |
G.
M. Hammond Daughter 18 Market Street Llanfyllin |
Twelfth November 1937 |